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listening to the very independent Michael Reagan show. Well, ladies and gentlemen, Mike Reagan is off today and uh he will be back on Monday. This is Mike Siegel in for Michael. Good to have you with us. And we've got an hour of conversation that I'm sure

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you're gonna want to enjoy as we go through the program. I didn't want to call. Couple of things Having to do with young people. One of which, very interesting study that's come out. First time the study has come out in this way. And uh this particular

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study has been done for 14 years. Has to do with drug use among teenagers. And it appears That 6th grade to 12th grade students who live with their fathers. are more likely than others. To use drugs based on this survey. Now The survey was done at

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schools and it was done anonymously so the kids could answer honestly about their behavior. And it's quite interesting. It's the first time that the survey broke down the numbers to look at the children who live with mothers only, fathers only, and step-parents. The kids living with

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their fathers only are most likely to take drugs. More than any other group. Over 38% said that they use drugs who live with their fathers only. That's over 38% of them. The father and stepmother living together was about 32%. The mother and stepfather, 29 or 30%.

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And the mother only 28, and both parents, 20%. So you see. And I don't know whether you single dads out there want to call about this, but it appears that kids living with single fathers are the most likely to carry out anti-social behavior. At least in

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the form Of drug use And uh there's been an increase in all of that. According to um The fellow who did the study. He says that the results indicate the importance of the role of the mother. The further the mother gets away, the more difficult for

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the child. Do you think the mother is more important than the father? I guess that's what he's saying. What about fathers' rights groups? While Stuart and Miller Out of the American Fathers Coalition. Says it's an important argument why if there's not abuse, neglect, or abandonment, putting

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those aside if they're not happening, that there should be mandatory joint custody because children need both parents. Should there be mandatory joint custody based on that study? And why is it? That young people living with their mothers only. Have less drug use than young people living

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with their fathers only. Is it possible that fathers simply are not as capable of raising their children as mothers are? Don't have the instinct for raising children? I'm not gonna suggest that fathers are less interested in the welfare of their children. But you could make the

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argument. That the fathers are less competent at raising children than mothers. What do you think about that? You think that fathers are less likely. To raise children Properly or responsibly than mothers. Let's go to Ian in North Carolina. Ian, you're on with Mike Siegel for Mike

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Reagan. Hello. Hey, how you doing today Mike? Good. Um, just wanted to talk something you mentioned about studies that are done in schools. I've been out of high school, obviously for a couple of years now, but one of the big things that I noticed when they

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did the test is granted it was anonymous, so the students knew that nobody was going to come back to them, so they took it as a joke. A lot of them exaggerated the situation. Well, the other side of that coin is if you do it anonymously,

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you might get more honest answers. True, um, I, I guess I just have my personal experience to pull from. Uh, one of the big issues that I've, I've dealt with, uh, right now I'm, I'm in the Marine Corps, uh. I've got about 12 marines that work

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for me. And, uh, one of the big things is accountability. You know, I, every Friday before the weekend, you know, I tell them, hey, I will be there for you. You know, if you get into a situation that you need trouble, I will be there for

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you. Hey, give me a call. I'll drive 5 hours. I'll come pick you up. You know, if, if it needs a butt chewing, we chew your butt. But don't, don't put yourself into a bad situation. And if you get there, know that you can come to

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me to get out and we'll talk about it afterwards. Instead of don't do it, I said my piece and that's it, you know, I tell them, hey, I don't tolerate stupid mistakes. A big drug around the military now is ecstasy. I don't tolerate that. I understand,

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but you know, it still comes back to the point. What you're saying in the military is is obviously very structured. I would contend to you that Fathers have less instinct about raising young children into their teenage years than mothers do. I mean, I'm not every single

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mother and not every single father fits in that generalization, but I think for the most part, mothers raise kids better than fathers would. And I want, I want pardon me, on the contrary to that, um, do all mothers know how to teach their sons how to

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play baseball? I mean, it's, it's different values and different parental obligations. I mean, I pull from my example, uh, in the military, yes, it is a structured way of life, but it comes down to a simple rule accountability. And I was told that if I wanted

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to see succeed and wanted to see my marine succeed, keep accountability. The the same law can apply to parenting, you know, I've had parents who were the best buddies of our friends, and I've had parents who were, who were strict. And we just, you know, you

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stick together amongst friends and keep the parents open. You know, my parents always knew everybody else's parents and single parent, their parents were stepparents, whatever the situation was, it's just take an active role and it doesn't have to be punitive, it just has to be active.

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What are you doing? Well, you know, let me, let me talk to so and so's parents, make sure that you guys are going to be OK, and if they need any help with getting rides or anything. That's It's, it's simple. Well, the point you're making, I

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thank you for calling. The point he's making is that uh both parents together, and that's what the study showed. Both parents together will do a better job. You need balance. You need what the father has to offer. You need what the mother has to offer. That's

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just a reality. No one's going to dispute that, and I at least I wouldn't. I think having a father and a mother, I know from my own circumstance, my parents offered. Uh, both very important elements of my upbringing, but they were different. But if you have

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to have the choice of one or the other. I don't think there's any question but that the mother is gonna wind up being, if all things being equal, better in raising the child than the father will. And this study points it out that for some reason

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fathers wind up having a high level of uh young people, the highest level of young people who are drug users. And that's when there's a single parent household who's the father. There is another story having to do with um a young person and really you can

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talk about this in terms of uh teenagers generally. And it's a very tragic story I think. It's about a couple of actors who appeared on America's Most Wanted. And they were both arrested on charges of having sex. With a 14 year old girl. Living at a

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shelter for abused children. This was supposed to have happened last January after a film crew finished shooting in an alley. Next to this shelter, it's called the Children of the night shelter. It turns out that Christian Saliadar, 28 years old, and Anthony Alvarez, 27 years old,

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both surrendered to police on Wednesday, a couple of days ago. Uh, actually Sally Adar surrendered on Wednesday and Alvarez had been arrested two weeks ago. Both of them pleaded innocent to the charges against them of sodomy and oral copulation with a person under the age of

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16. According to the district attorney, they could get up to 3 years, 8 months in prison. Authorities say that one of the men climbed through a window at this shelter for children. And the shelter helps sexually abused teenagers and former prostitutes. And that this individual had

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sex with the girl in her dormitory room and then later, she climbed out the window to have sex with the other man in the alley. And again, remember, she's 14. Defense attorneys are saying the clients did not know she was 14. Gilbert Murray, who was the

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attorney for one of these two guys, says his client is innocent. Because the girl in question misled my client into believing she was older. The girl is now 15. And she says she had consensual sex with both men. Well, first of all, Don't you think it's

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outrageous for an attorney to say that the girl misled them? Whose responsibility is it when you're talking about. A child To make sure that you don't have sex with a child. There's something called statutory rape. And it is an automatic crime for an adult to have

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sex with a child under the theory of statutory rape, even though the sex was consensual. Doesn't matter And in this case, these guys were actors shooting next to this shelter. And uh they start monkeying around. What did they think it was for goodness sake. It's a

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shelter. How can they be so naive as to think this was an older woman. It's obviously a shelter for runaway teenagers. I've been to many of those and it's obvious when that's the case. I want to know what should be done about these guys. Should they

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be prosecuted? Should they be put away? Is there any excuse for having sex with a teenager in that case? And should they ever be on that television program again? 1-800-468-6453. Mike Segal from Mike Reagan. Hi, my name is Matthew. I'm the only one in my class

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the price of the program and ask about your free book. The number is 1-800-584-E. That's 1-800-584-E. Well I want to hear from you fellows out there are women better at raising children than men, given a single parent household. This study

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shows. That 38% of young people use drugs when being raised by a single father. And only about 28 or 29% use drugs when raised by a single mother. Does that mean men are worse parents than women? And what about this 14 year old girl who's had

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consensual sex with two guys working on a TV show, America's Most Wanted. First of all, should they ever work in the media again? I think they should be thrown out on their posterior ends, #1. And number 2, shouldn't they be prosecuted even though it was consensual

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sex? And is their lawyer being disingenuous when he says they didn't know she was 14? I mean who's who's gonna be that naive? And if you have a question about it, certainly you don't just go out and have sex and then worry about it later. Margaret

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in South Carolina, you're on with Mike Segal from Michael Reagan. Hello. Hi, how are you? I'm fine, Margaret. Um, my, my opinion is there's absolutely no excuse for, for, um, what these gentlemen did. I mean, um, I think they're no better than sexual predators. If you've

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got a 14 year old girl that's in a shelter, obviously she's got problems to begin with. The very fact, instead of them saying, Hey little girl, get in my car. I've got candy for you, they're saying, Hey little girl, look at me, I'm a glamorous movie

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star, you know, the lure is still there and to climb in the window and for the attorney to say that it was a You know, she misled them about her age. It's, it's, that's absolutely ludicrous. I agree with you. I think it's outrageous, frankly that they

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would even consider using that defense um because first of all, it is still statutory rape regardless. It's still a strict liability crime. And that's the way it ought to be. I mean this girl, you said that made the point and thank you for calling. She made

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the point. This girl already had problems. She was in a shelter for abused or neglected children or prostitutes. And these guys come after her in that kind of environment. They should pay the price in my view. Jake in Utah, you're on with Mike Siegel from Mike

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Reagan. Hello. Hi, Mike. Um, I just had a comment on single parenting. I've been raising three boys. By the way, could you imagine these 2, 27 and 28 year olds being fathers of little girls? Since we're talking about fathers and one story and the rape of

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this 14 year old girl on the other, these guys are old enough to be her father, almost. Hello? Yeah, go ahead, go right ahead. All right. Well, I was just commenting on the the single parenting. I've been raising 3 boys by myself for a while now.

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And I'll admit that I mean I'm, I'm kind of behind the eight ball on this, you know, all I can do is the best I can, but I mean, I'm a male. I, you know, I, I don't have that innate nurturing ability. All I can do

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is try, you know. Well, I, I, I, I appreciate number one, the honesty and the candor. And number 2, the realistic nature of what you just said because I think there is, whether we like to say it or not, and it's maybe not politically correct, but

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there are differences between men and women. And one of those is a maternal instinct. There is not a paternal nurturing instinct in the same way as there is with women. Now that's not every single case, but it is most cases. That's the difference between the genders.

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And I think that's why both parents offer something to the child. Do you do you are you surprised to see the result in this uh study that 38% of the kids living with single fathers wind up using drugs? Well, I would have to say so. I

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think sometimes it might be. The men, uh, you know, they need to kind of fight the urge to Oh, let's see. Well, not, they have to be more involved. They have to stay involved. If it falls to the dad to raise the kids and, and it's

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happened more and more now. Um, I think, uh, you're just gonna have to, you're just gonna have to rise up to it and you're going to have to become more involved. You're gonna have to, you're gonna have to go to the PTA meetings. You're going to

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have to do that stuff. You're going to have to do that stuff that maybe your wife would have done. You know, or the female parent, you're gonna have to just rise up to it and get involved and do the best you can. That's all you can

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do. And, you know, single parenting is just not a good deal either way. Well, and you congratulations for doing um for doing your best with 3 children. That's a tough job for a man to be doing. Uh, but congratulations on your on your realistic attitude and

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the efforts that you you seem to be making. I appreciate your call too. Let's go to Leanne in Green Bay, Wisconsin, home of the Packers. Hi Leanne, you're on with Mike Siegel from Michael Reagan. Hi there, Mike. How are you doing? OK, my comment you made

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the statement that there are instinctive differences in men and women as far as, but more than that, I guess from my observation as a mom with brothers with a husband who has children from a former marriage. Men seem less likely to be willing to acknowledge, first

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of all, that there is a problem. They seem to maybe take it as a personal failure on their part, so if we don't acknowledge it, we don't have to deal with it. Well, you know, then then that that may be one of the reasons why these

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kids living with single fathers are using drugs more often. And that's real possible because as a mom, you know your child better than anyone else. You can, you can tell the doctor, you know, I know my kids got an ear infection and the doctor will say,

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well, it's too early to tell, and two days later you're back at the doctor because guess what, your child has an ear infection. You know, and I just think that moms are just a little less hesitant. To delve into a problem and deal with it. Well,

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you know, and if you make a great point. Maybe that's true. I thank you for calling Leanne and one of the things we know about men is that they are less likely to express emotion than women. And therefore probably less likely to have a more emotionally

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intimate nurturing relationship with their children and therefore the children don't feel as connected. Maybe there's some kind of uh security blanket connection between the child and the mother that there is not with the father. Maybe there's something special about that that fathers cannot give to children.

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Uh, let's go to, uh, Jeff in Washington state. Jeff, you're on with Mike Siegel from Mike Reagan. Hello. How are you doing? Good. Well, uh, I'm gonna have to disagree with you and I'm gonna have to disagree with your, um, obviously, um, tainted, uh, statistics. I'd

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like to ask a question. Why is it that 70% of the kids in state institutions grew up without their fathers? Why is it that kids who grow up without their dads around have psychological problems, more drug abuse, and more alcohol abuse are more likely to live

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in poverty and fail in school. I raised three kids from the time that they were infants. The mother wasn't around at all. They're now grown and gone. Let me tell you, sir. Dads do have a nurturing instinct. There's, it's been put down and said, oh yeah,

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you're talking to the typical jock, but I got news for you. Most of us love our children dearly and we die for them. I went to PTA. I changed their diapers. I wiped their poop. I sang to them when, when, when we went to bed, I

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rocked them to sleep. I kissed their boo boos. I'm sick and I'm tired of the feminis. This community out there trying to say somehow that men are incapable of raising children properly and who cannot give a child the kind of proper guidance, nurture it, love and

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affection that they need to grow up. I'm appalled at what they said. All right, fair enough. Now, and I agree with you about some of that, by the way, with some of the politically correct community. But let me ask you a very specific point. Because I

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believe this and I think most accept it. Would you agree that women have a better generally, not all, but generally have a better ability of emotional expression than men who are raised in the society to be restrained in their emotional expression. Well then I'd ask the

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question, what kind of emotional expression are you talking about? Well, any, any emotional expression. Yeah, I believe that women get stressed out a lot easier than men. I believe that single parent mothers yell and scream, you know, that may be, but you know what, the fact

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of the matter is, Jeff. Wait a minute. The fact of the matter is that women die much later than men generally speaking, and maybe it's because they're able to express themselves and guys get all pen up with their feelings and wind up getting heart attacks earlier

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because they don't express themselves. Well, actually, if you want to know the information that I call the, uh, uh, look at, um, it's a book called, uh, hello. Yeah, I'm here. Yeah, uh, it's a book called, I read, it's called by, it's by Warren Farrell. It's

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called The Myth of Male Power. Please read that book. I encourage everybody to read that. That will bring the sexes closer together. There will, there will be less war between the sexes. They'll understand what's going on between men and women, but especially the myth about male

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power and who we are, what we go through, and what we don't go through. And a little epithet here. Although statistic that a garbage man is twice as likely to get killed on the job as a policeman. All right, I appreciate the call and I thank

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you. Mike Segal back, by the way, in fairness to the men who pick up that garbage, let's call them sanitation engineers. Stay with us. I want to, uh, first of all, say a word of appreciation to

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the last caller because he obviously. Has done a lot of work in raising his children and I think he's very frustrated about the message that gets out about women being better parents than men and about the what I thought was an obnoxious study by the American

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Psychological Association that said that men aren't even needed that all the child needs is a female in the household. But I think there is something to be said about this question as to why more kids in single-parent households with men are using drugs as compared with

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single-parent households with women as the parent. I don't and I would go back to the point. I don't think men have the same ability to be expressive emotionally and I think kids need to have a personal connection to a parent. And women are better at doing

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that. In many ways. Uh, and that's just simply part of the reality of raising a child. Uh, Mitch in southern Utah, you're on with Mike Segal from Mike Reagan. Hi. Hey Mike, thanks for taking my call. Sure. Hey, I just wanted to look at it a

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slightly different way. Statistically, there appears to be only about 10% difference between the two. Is that correct? Yeah, 38% to about 28%. OK, yeah, so that means about 90% of the time. There is no difference between the male and the female as far as single parenting.

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Well, let's see, the 10% well it's 20. In other words, it's about 1 out of every, to be precise, 1 out of every 3.5 kids living with a woman uh as the parent uses drugs. 1 out of every 2 and 2/3 of men living with men

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as single parents. So um it it it's almost one full child. I don't know how to explain, say that, but in other words, there are more kids, 38 out of every 100 kids living with a father are using drugs. 28 out of every 100 kids living

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with a mother. So there's 10 kids out of 100 more with using drugs who live with men than women. Yeah, that's only a 10 kids out of 100 more, which means a 10% difference. All right, fair enough. See, uh, anyway, it's it's kind of like looking

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at the glass half empty versus half full. Which, which one are you going to focus on? Well, I, you know, look, neither one is the best case. I think having two parents is obviously the best scenario. But given, given the statistic, do you think there's any

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legitimacy to the point that the mother, given one parent is better to raise the child than the father? it's it's bad for single parenting in general. I think also I think also that they're looking at one behavior out of a whole host of possible behaviors that

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might be affected, and I think if you look at the behavior characteristics of single moms, you're going to find a lot of out of control teenage boys. Yeah, that's true. And I've talked to parents on the air, women on the air, raising their sons who are

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1314, 15 years old, and these women will say they're afraid of their son. Uh, because of whatever reason that uh physically afraid that the sun will cause them physical harm if they get in the way. The promiscuity factor among teenage daughters. So you know you got

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you got some other factors to look at. Yep. No, it's a good point. Listen, I thank you very much. Good to talk to you. Let's go to Rachel in California. Rachel, you're on with Mike Segel for Michael Reagan. Hello. Hi. Hi Mike. Hi. um I just

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had a comment about um you were talking about how um A man has a different nurturing instinct than a woman. I'm 24 years old. I'm the oldest of 9 children. My parents are still together, and I remember two distinct different feelings I got from from either

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of my parents. My mom, I just remember a more closer nurturing relationship, and from my father, I just remember um more of a um. Um, not, not strict at all, but just more of a um. A logical relationship, like, like more talking and my mom was

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just more emotional. And I think that, I think that's the difference. It's not, it's not to say that a man can't learn to be nurturing in that open way. Well, that but see with women, I think it's more instinctive. You just made a key point about

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it being a learned behavior for men. Right. So, so that's what I'm saying is that it, it, I think that men don't have that, like, to begin with, but it has a lot to do with the way they were raised with their parents too. Like my

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dad was raised really well by his parents who are still together and I think that has a lot to do with it is the upbringing of the parent themselves. That's a good point, and I think uh you know, but I think you would also agree having

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the mother and the father in the home is far better than having a single parent, whether it is the mother or the father. I agree, I agree, and it's, it's kind of like a fallback on my part, and I can't, I'm not able to like see

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that point of view because I grew up in a home where both my parents were in the home, so I'm coming from a different view than, you know, a kid that was raised with either or. Well, I appreciate the call and I thank you for the

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comment. Sure, a male figure in the home can learn. That kind of intimacy, but it, it's more difficult. Women, I think have it by instinct. Brian in Salt Lake City, you're on with Mike Siegel from Mike Reagan. Hello. Hi, Michael. Thanks for taking my call. Sure.

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Well, let me start by saying that I'm a single dad with 4 girls. One of them's from her previous marriage. Boy oh boy, you got it, you got one there, 4 daughters or a single father. Holy smokes. So, but I, I, I'm going to follow kind

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of the tack of that call right before the break. Um, this data is, has got to be interpreted in a different way. Instead of saying that, that male parents are not the best parents, what you've got to look at here is this study more targets who

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is involved when they leave the home. You know what I mean, it's like When women get the kids after a divorce, men fight like hell to keep involved with the kids, but a woman who's going to walk away from their kids and their marriage and leave

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them with the dad are generally not nearly as involved as the second parent. And of course it takes both parents to raise kids. But there are much fewer instead of interpreting the data as men are worse parents, what it is is that men don't get the

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help that women get. Well, but there's much fewer of those cases where the women leave. Um, those don't happen very often, do they? Um it's happening more and more often, but you're right. I mean, the stat statistically speaking, I'd imagine there are a lot more women

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who are left with their kids because the courts interpret things as the woman is the best parent, but men are standing up and fighting for their rights, and, and when it's the woman that screws up the marriage. They take their kids. And a woman who leaves

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her kids with their parents are less likely or with their husband is less likely to maintain a strict and strong involvement. With the kids as a non-custodial parent. Therefore, therefore, if you go on the account that it takes both parents to raise the kids, the woman

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is less likely to stay involved and therefore is a worse non-custodial parent than a male would who has to fight to stay involved with the kids. Where did your wife go, by the way? Um, she decided she was after 14 years of marriage and 4 kids,

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she was gay. Holy smokes. Yeah, that was kind of a shock to all of us and, and, you know, she is, she has chosen such a selfish lifestyle that she doesn't have room for her kids. Well, um, that of course that's an unusual case. That is,

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that's highly unusual, but I still think that men stay more involved after a divorce than women stay involved. But the question about the primary parent comes back to the question as to why do kids who live with their single fathers use drugs more often than than

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kids who are raised by single mothers. The non-custodial parent is not as involved. When you have a greater likelihood of a greater involvement that may be. All right, listen, I appreciate it. I thank you very much. Who knows, that may be an answer. If women when

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they leave, stay uninvolved with their children. As compared with men who stay involved after they leave, maybe he's right. Maybe that fact alone is is the important point. Let's get your calls. And we have some wide open lines. 1-800-468-6453. Are women better at raising children than

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men in a single parent household? And what about the 14 year old girl who was who had consensual sex with these two guys who were working on America's Most Wanted television show? Should they be prosecuted? I say yes, what do you say after this? Hey Mike

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on, Fred Meyer and other stores. Check Hearstcare.com. Let's get back to your calls and this uh ongoing question. I, I want to really get into also if you want to comment about it, the the girl who was 14 years old living in a shelter for abused

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children and former prostitutes. Two guys working on America's Most Wanted come along and wind up enticing her to have consensual sex. One inside of the unit where the guy crawled in through the window. And in the other case she crawled out of the window and had

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sex with the other guy. She's 14 and the lawyer is saying they didn't know she was underage. It was her fault for misleading them about age. For God's sake. Where is there any morality in the legal profession anywhere? Uh and shouldn't these guys be prosecuted to

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the full extent of the law and shouldn't they be thrown off of this TV show if they have any uh future possibility of being there anyway? Larry in Memphis, Tennessee, you're around with Mike Segal from Mike Reagan. Hello. Hey, Mike. I, I kind of came in

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late on this, so I heard you say something about you put in a study that children are more likely to do drugs if they're raised by a single father as opposed to single mothers. That's correct. Oh, now that's contrary to every study I've ever seen. Well,

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it just came out almost every study shows that kids with single who live with single fathers as opposed to single mothers do better in school, you know, grow up better. I mean, of course, but the problem is you got such a small sample of single fathers

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who are raising their kids. So, but, uh, yeah, the studies, all the studies I've seen show that they do better with the fathers. Well, all I can tell you is what the reports of this particular study are, and it was done. Uh, it was a group

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called Pride. I have to look back and get all the information for you, which I can do, but, um, the name of the group was Pride and they did this, uh, with kids, um, 6th to 12th grade and it was done anonymously so they didn't have

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to give their names. So the theory was they'd be more honest about the answers they gave. Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, we, single pilots have a tough way to go. I mean, the, the, the courts are biased against us. Uh, I mean, and let's face

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it, most of the, these guys in black roads are legal morons anyway, and, uh, you get into the court. I mean, even though the law says you don't have to prove a mother unit, you're gonna have to, you automatically go in there and, and they think

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that the mother's fit to raise the kids, but you're not. It's just, uh, you know, like a guy who called in earlier, you know, I changed my kid's diaper, I hugged him, and, you know, when he cries, I held him. Uh, you know, there's just there's

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no reason for the courts, you know, to assume that the mother is a better parent. Well, there are other studies, you're right, there are other studies that have shown different results. Uh, there was one by the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse that was done

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at Columbia University, and they said that the risk of drug abuse was slightly higher for children living with single moms than with single dads. This opposes that study. This was done by the way, with 75,000 students across the country. It was done anonymously. And it was

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the 14th annual survey that was done, but it was done um with um. This question being asked for the first time about whether it was a single parent household or or a two-parent household. It was never done that way before. Well, fortunately, you know, I, I

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think it's fortunately, you know, single father households are actually, you know, growing as a percentage of the population I mean fathers are starting to get custody more, so maybe we can actually start getting a better sample. But, uh, uh, I mean, it's if the courts were,

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if you could walk into court and automatically have a joint custody situation, you'd have to prove the other parent, whether father or mother, unfit not to have joint custody. I think you would have a much better situation. And then if you had child support laws that

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are based on the cost of raising a child rather than how much, you know, one parent made, then, uh, uh, all you talked to a while ago later about the, I mean earlier about. Uh, it's not very often that mothers leave kids, right? But what I

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found out and what's pretty common in the fathers' rights organizations, we have mothers that leave the marriage, but as soon as they find out they're going to pay for it, they come back and fight like hell for those kids. OK, I appreciate the call and I

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thank you very much. Let's go to um excuse me, to Ray in Logan, Utah next. Ray, you're on with Mike Segal from Mike Reagan. Hi. Hi Mike, how are you doing? I'm fine, thanks. Hey, you've done a great job here filling in for Mike Reagan. I

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appreciate that. Thank you very much. Hey, concerning this Pride study, I think that there may be, I mean, to infer from that necessarily that in this one area of parenting that male parents are worse than female parents might be to fall for a post hoc fallacy.

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I mean, we're looking at the correlation between, you know, single parents. And drug use. And there may be several other reasons why, why we might, uh, see this kind of correlation. And I can think of two right off. Uh, do you want to hear them? Go

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ahead. OK. Uh, the first one is. You got about 35 seconds. OK, I'll be quick. The first one is that, uh, it's possible that if you have more wayward teenagers, they might, the courts may be more inclined to award custody to the father because he might

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be more strict. And the second reason is that you might have more conservative areas of the country where drug use is less of a problem, and in those same areas you might see that more the judges are more willing or more inclined to award custody to

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the uh to the mothers. I thank you for that. It's possible, um, although I'm not sure that uh. The judge awarding the child to the mother in a conservative area is any different than in any other area. Generally speaking, in most states that I'm aware of,

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the child is going to be awarded to the mother unless the mother has some sort of problem that precludes her from having the child. Whether maybe she's a prostitute or an alcoholic or a drug addict. But other than that the women usually get the children. In

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terms of primary custody anyway. Now of course there's also joint custody. Less in South Carolina, very quickly got about 30 seconds. Go ahead. Oh yes, I just wanted to pick up right where you left off, I guess. What you're saying there is that most of the

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time the mother gets the custody unless she's got some pretty serious problems as far as being a prostitute or a drug addict or something like that. And I am also a single father and I Uh, that's what I consider to be one of the problems, uh,

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let me ask you to stay right there and I'll ask you to pick it up when we come back, Les if you would. And we'll get to the other calls as well and let's jam those lines on raising our children, men or women in single-parent households,

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folks, we asked the fundamental question, are kids better off if there is a single parent household with a mother or father? The study we're talking about says that more kids living with their fathers as single parents use drugs than kids living with their mothers as single

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parents. What do you think? Is that study uh correct, incorrect? Is it skewed? Want to get your comments about that. Let's go to your calls. Kara in Salt Lake City. You're on with Mike Siegel from Mike Reagan. Hello. Let's go to uh Cindy. I think Kara

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went out. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let's go back to Les. You're absolutely right. Uh, Les was there trying to finish up a point and here I am trying to blow him off uh improperly. Hello Les, go right ahead. Sorry about that. Yeah, I, I, who

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knows what all the answers are. I just, uh, I, I do think it's a little bit jumping to the gun there to, to, to tie that, that statistic to the fathers. I think I do believe that by far the best is to have both for the

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balance that you get from the father and the mother. And I hate to speak in generalities, but yeah, the father's going to provide more discipline and the mother's going to provide more of the emotional nurturing love and things. Yeah, but that balance is important. And the

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question is if there's only one or the other, which one is more important? Well, and again I think you probably look at overall I don't know what all the studies are. I know one of your other callers said that uh Kids with their fathers do better

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in school and stuff like that. Um, but I did want to pick up where you left off there. I think you know. The children who end up with their father are in a very small uh Amount compared to the ones that end up with their mother

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and like you said, unless usually there's something. That's a problem with the mother, they're going to end up with the mother. So particularly with drug abuse, it's a genetic disease to some extent. I think both things play a part as far as the environment and heredity.

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What about your kids? Uh, I'd have to say they both have, uh, have been involved with drugs. Yes, they have, in my case, um. And in my case, um, one of them was using drugs with his mother. OK, and I had been trying to get psychiatric

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help and psychological help, knowing that he had problems and we were doing it with his mother. Well, you know, the other the other thing that that's rather puzzling is that we have a lot of these crack babies that are born to women who wind up being

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single parents and those kids are drug abusers living in a single parent household with a mother. And and so your point is well taken that I look this study. Uh, was with 75,000 kids across the country. It was done anonymously. Uh, you can take it at

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face value for what it's worth. I'm not gonna tell you that it's totally correct or totally incorrect. I don't know the answer to that in a lot of your regular divorces, if you want to call them regular, where the where the mother ends up with the

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children like the other caller said, the father. Could be a perfectly good father, but all things being equal, the mother's going to get the children. That's the ends up with the children. I thank you very much and uh it's rare when the father gets the children.

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what some people are thinking. People who hold positions of prominence of influence in the public sector. And uh we've talked about Congressman Condon and Mike Reagan, of course, has talked about it on this program on many occasions. And by the way, Mike will be back on

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Monday. Mike Segal here for him for today. But now we turn to another case and sometimes I just shake my head and and wonder where people are. Apparently in Salt Lake City. An assistant US attorney. Has been charged with lewdness. Because she allegedly exposed her breasts

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and mooned her neighbors on the street outside of their home. And some of the cars driving down the street had an accident looking and ran into um telephone poles watching her. No, I'm only kidding. But it's a true story. This woman's an assistant US attorney. She

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moons and exposes her breasts. Her name is Laurie Sartorio. She's 45 years old. She's a criminal prosecutor. In Salt Lake City for the US Attorney's office. Can you imagine this? I wonder if anybody had a camera. Bring it to her next case in the courtroom. She's

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now been charged with a Class A misdemeanor. For lewdness involving a child. And she could wind up getting a year in jail and $2500 fine. What happened was A woman Who was later identified as Miss Sartorio yelled at a group of her neighbors. As they watched

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her discipline. Two dogs that she was walking on July 12th, about a week ago. According to the police report. One of the people in that group. was a 2 year old child. And The woman Who later was identified as this. US Attorney Deputy US Attorney. Shouted

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expletive deleteds. And then made an obscene gesture at the group, according to a police spokesman in Salt Lake City. Then get this. The woman walks down the street. Pulls down her pants. And moons this group. I wonder if that would work in the courtroom with a

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federal judge if she's prosecuting a federal case. My word Then get this, she pulls up her shirt to expose her breasts. And then she repeated these actions to that group. I guess the group was complaining about the way she was disciplining the two dogs. And she

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got all bent out of shape. Well, now Ms. Sartorio has denied the charges in a police report. She has refused comment. In an attempted phone interview. Here's my question. Assuming these facts to be true. Assuming this woman Is a US attorney, an assistant US attorney. On

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the public payroll, out there prosecuting criminal cases. If she's found guilty of this misdemeanor, and I hold judgment in abeyance until that happens, but if she's found guilty of mooning these people. And baring her breasts, even if there was not a two year old child in

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that group. Even if it was just a group of adults. Shouldn't she be removed from office? I mean you're not constitutionally entitled. To bear your breasts and moon other people. Thereby being protected to hang on to your job, especially if you're out there upholding the law

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as a criminal prosecutor. I want to get your supposing she were the US attorney or assistant US attorney. In your community. And she is on the public payroll, the federal tax dollar, so all of us pay her salary. Shouldn't she be removed from office if she's

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found guilty of that misdemeanor? Is there any excuse for a person to do that who's in the public trust carrying out the law? What an obnoxious thing to do. Now she may disagree with the fact that the people were yelling at her. About the way she

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was disciplining those dogs, but what right? Does she have To moon people and then bare her breasts. Being a US attorney. And I can tell you this much, if I were the US attorney. In Salt Lake City. I'd put her on suspension Immediately, and then if

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she were found guilty, I'd fire her. Well, let's put it this way. I don't want to say it um pejoratively, but I'd fire her blank as soon as she's found guilty. The same blank that she used to moon those people. Unbelievable. 1800-468-Mike. 1800-468-6453. Should this woman.

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Be continuing in her job. As a An assistant US attorney. After having mooned people, pulled down her pants and mooned them and then bared her breasts. I think that that is totally unacceptable and obnoxious. Let me get your comments about that. 1-800-468-Mike. The other question. And

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I've got to admit ignorance here cause I haven't seen the programs. They they don't interest me in the least. Uh, these programs that are known as um reality shows. Shows like Fear Factor, Spy TV. And weakest link I've got to tell you, I haven't seen them.

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And I can't really say much about the content of those programs, but I can tell you this, the president of NBC Entertainment, Jeff Zucker. Appeared before the television Critics Association. And he figured he was gonna get some hard questioning from them. About these reality shows that

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from what I can gather. Are fundamentally junk. Are are nothingness really when it comes to any sense of quality about these programs. Uh, Fear Factor, for example, apparently subjects its contestants to tests including. Being placed in a pit with hundreds of rats. And this apparently has

01:11:56.240 - 01:12:12.660

been appealing to people under the age of 35. I guess it's the same crowd as Jerry Springer draws. Alan says our director here says he likes the Fear Factor. Well, maybe I haven't seen it so I can't really give firsthand account, but I will say that

01:12:12.660 - 01:12:30.870

those programs are of no interest to me, frankly, whatsoever. Um, I have no, um, Interest or compunction about them. And I don't get it, frankly. I just simply do not get it about what draws people to these programs. Maybe it's just the bizarre. Yeah, I guess

01:12:30.870 - 01:12:44.560

it's kind of like a traffic accident. You know, you'll see a traffic accident on one side of a highway. And then all of a sudden the other side of the highway gets all bottled up and jammed up because people are rubbernecking. They're looking. At the uh

01:12:44.890 - 01:12:58.930

line of traffic. And wondering What uh what's going on? You know, they're looking for the uh for the accident maybe for looking for a dead body. I don't know what they're looking for. But but that happens a great deal. There are critics who have called these

01:12:58.930 - 01:13:18.870

shows mean-spirited and degrading. And according to Mr. Zucker, the president of NBC Entertainment, he says that those critics are out of touch with the viewers. He claims that these shows attract the same kind of upscale, affluent audiences that are drawn to NBC's top-notch programs. Is that

01:13:18.870 - 01:13:34.649

true? Do you folks watch these reality-based programs, so-called reality-based programs? Let me get your uh if you watch them, I'd like to hear from you. I think they're a waste of time. I wouldn't watch them. Why would why would somebody want to watch a person in

01:13:34.649 - 01:13:50.819

a pit with a bunch of rats? I mean, I like horror movies. But I'd rather go out there and watch the horror movie than see this uh this kind of degrading television. At least the horror movies are fictional, not contrived to be reality. Anyway, that's one

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point. The other point again about this US attorney, assistant US attorney. Ms. Sarturio in Salt Lake City. She moons these people, bears her breasts when they yell at her about the way she's treating a couple of dogs. Should she be if she's found guilty and let's

01:14:04.140 - 01:14:28.000

give her her day in court. Should she be summarily dismissed as a US attorney criminal prosecutor for doing such lewd behavior? I mean, how can she walk into a courtroom now? And have any sense of credibility. In prosecuting cases. 1-800-468-Mike, 1800-468-6453. And I'd love to hear

01:14:28.000 - 01:14:39.229

from you about these reality-based shows. I haven't seen them, but you tell me what the value is of these programs because I'm not sure what it is. And I'd like to be educated about it. I don't I don't have any interest in watching them. Do you

01:14:39.229 - 01:14:51.439

think they're of any value? And why do so many people watch him? And is it the same kind of people who watch Springer. And with all due respect to the American people, when you look at the Springer program, he finds the most aberrant human beings he

01:14:51.439 - 01:15:03.830

can find to get up on those panels. I mean that's the nature of that program. It's it's like a traffic accident that I mentioned earlier. Alright, so we'll come back to your calls on the Michael Reagan program. My name is Mike Siegel. Let's fill up those

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lines. And you tell me why these reality-based programs are successful. Do you like them? And should this US attorney be fired? 1-800-468-6453. Mike Siegel for Mike Reagan right after this. Let's jet set. Oh sure, you could wait around for the airlines to run a sale on

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to start when you start looking for a home. Oh We're back at it, folks. Mike Siegel from Michael Reagan. Nice to have you with us. Just talking off the air about these shows. Uh, I guess they also according to um Alan will put maggots

01:18:52.830 - 01:19:12.470

on people, put them in pits with snakes. Uh, my goodness gracious, what will people do either for money or publicity. Totally obnoxious. Be that as it may, uh, we're glad to get your calls about these reality programs. The president of NBC Entertainment says that it's uh

01:19:12.879 - 01:19:28.189

it's OK. Uh, that people like these programs, so we're gonna supply and fill that need. That's what television is about. Following, not leading, right? Let's go to your calls and comments as we start with Pete in Portland, Oregon. Hello, Pete, you're on with Mike Siegel for

01:19:28.189 - 01:19:47.410

Michael Reagan. How are you doing today? All right. It's more of a question. What standards do you hold for like the women firemen, firefighters that pose and Playboy? Well, that's another good question. Uh, you know, ironically I would contend that that's a little bit different and

01:19:47.410 - 01:19:59.450

for those who tuned in late, we have a woman, an assistant US attorney in Salt Lake City who has bared her breasts and mooned some people because they yelled at her about the way she treated a couple of dogs. And my question is should we should

01:19:59.450 - 01:20:16.640

she be fired if she's found guilty? Of of doing that, it is a misdemeanor. um. I think there's a difference. One, the major difference is that this woman She is an officer of the court. She's a criminal prosecutor for the federal government. And um it it

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compromises her credibility in going into court prosecuting her cases. I don't think a firewoman appearing in Playboy necessarily can do does the same doesn't do the same thing. Though you could make the argument if you wanted to, that she shouldn't have been allowed to do that

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and she should be dismissed. I I I haven't thought much about that one. What's your feeling? Well, and that's I'm not really sure. I think if you want to hold like for all DAs if they're committed, if they're charged with any crime, you know, you are

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convicted of any crime, you want to hold them on the same standard, but just because she buried her breath, I don't know if you should draw. But remember something, it, it was, it, she's being prosecuted for the misdemeanor of lewd behavior. In other words, and if

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that falls if she was picked up for shoplifting or any of that and she would be treated the same, I have no problem with that. Well, but the, the firefighter female did not break the law by posing in Playboy. And I, and I agree with you

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there is a difference. So and then I do not have a problem with the DA if you're gonna hold that standard for any conviction, I have no problem with it as well. All right. I thank you for calling. I think that's true. Although I have to

01:21:31.319 - 01:21:44.209

think about that, but this is one that really well yeah any any criminal conviction ought to lead to that result. It would seem to me. How could you possibly prosecute the law of criminals if you're a criminal yourself? Uh let's go to Rob in Maryland. Rob,

01:21:44.250 - 01:21:58.729

you're on with Mike Siegel for Mike Reagan. Hello. Hello. Uh, hello Mike. How are you doing? OK, well, I'm choking here, but go ahead. OK. All right. Uh, basically, as far as the deal with the US attorney, I mean, the first call I made a pretty

01:21:58.729 - 01:22:12.299

good point with the, uh, let's say the firewomen who opposes in Playboy. But if you want to really make a comparison, let's go to another field entirely. What about doctors who smoke? Cigarettes, right. The point is doctors are expected to uphold medical ideals when they're practicing

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doctors, not not in their own lives. A US attorney, while, you know, if this is true, it is a crime and she should be convicted as a normal citizen, but that does not, that doesn't undermine her ability to be a US attorney. Well, but wait a

01:22:26.979 - 01:22:43.490

minute now. When you say a number one, a doctor is not a federal prosecutor or an attorney, a doctor. Is, um, we, we holds up pretty high standard. I, I understand that, but, but, but wait a minute now. Attorneys, uh, generally and prosecutors specifically have very

01:22:43.970 - 01:22:56.859

specific standards of behavior that they're allowed to follow. If an attorney, just a practicing attorney is convicted of a felony, that attorney's not gonna be able to practice law, at least for a very long time depending on what the state Supreme Court and that state decides.

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Or what the rules are in that state. If if that's a felony, then what about this, a class A misdemeanor? Well, in this case, you're right, it's a misdemeanor, but I would contend to you that that kind of behavior is repugnant for a for a federal

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prosecutor and that that's very different. Wait, wait a minute, sir. Hold it. A doctor smoking a cigarette doesn't violate the law. Well, what I meant is, uh, as far as the comparison goes, it's kind of a crime against his own profession just like an attorney committing

01:23:25.120 - 01:23:41.140

a crime is a crime against her own profession. Well, I mean, but what you see, here's the difference. We're talking about. A a legal standard because this woman knows the law. She upholds the law. She's legally required to have certain behaviors, frankly in her own life

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as well as in the No, that's really not how it works. If she committed a crime it is how it works. It certainly is how it works. The the US attorney in Salt Lake City, if this woman, for example, in her private life has has uh

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Uh, a different lover every night and then guys are driving by her house and it's legal for her to do that because she's not a prostitute. She's not charging her money. And word gets around town that this woman is is basically Uh, promiscuous and um is

01:24:09.040 - 01:24:21.089

is a nymphomaniac. I mean, obviously, even though that's legal, she's not going to be in office very long. So then the issue is not whether or not she committed a crime. It is whether whether the public views her as an acceptable leader. No, I'm saying to

01:24:21.089 - 01:24:33.669

you that there's I said in her personal life, when you hold a certain kind of job, you're open to that scrutiny. But the fact of committing a crime makes it even worse. Well, um, do you agree that there's a possibility that there might be attorneys and

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cops out there who speed and might run the occasional red. Of course there are. OK, so, so we can't hold them to superhuman standards. Well, but this is, I mean, but this is something that is so obvious about the, the, the repugnance of this and lewdness

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is, is a misdemeanor in most counties in most cities, and most states. She knows that. Right, I mean, I suppose definitions vary, but it's pretty much always going to be a crime. I'm, I'm just saying to you that, well, what supposing she's found guilty, what would

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you do with her? I, you know, to be honest, it really depends on the circumstances under which it happened. If she, if she has been routinely harassed by these people, I, I mean, there's no way to say without really knowing exactly what happened. I would, I'd

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rather leave that up to her boss or whoever the, uh, the, the attorney general is in, uh, in, uh, I'm sorry, what state was it again? In in Utah. The, the, um, the, the, the, the, the, the police report says that she was walking a couple

01:25:28.370 - 01:25:39.810

of dogs and then she was disciplining them in some way that these people didn't like. And they were screaming at her from across the street and that's when she came over and bared her breasts and mounded them, taking off her pants. OK, well, I mean, I

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guess we kind of have to wait for a court to decide, but if you want to switch topics over to the reality shows issue. Um, I'll do it quickly because I got a lot of calls. OK, well, you can, uh, you can switch off if you'd

01:25:50.000 - 01:26:02.740

like. No, if you want to take about 30 seconds and make a comment, go ahead. OK, go. Um, essentially these reality shows do not have the same audience as Jerry Springer, which is a daytime syndicated talk show, and that's typically the middle America. I would, I

01:26:02.740 - 01:26:13.075

mean, I would contend undereducated people who are at home during the day don't really have jobs. I mean, you're saying that a lot of these reality shows, they're pointless and kind of mindless, and that's true. But so so was a lot of the rest of television,

01:26:13.365 - 01:26:27.325

especially primetime network television. The sitcoms are inane and pointless, and they, they're kind of, they're kind of shallow, and the reality television is just the reality side of shallow broadcast network programming. Well said, and I appreciate it. And that was a good 30 seconds and it

01:26:27.325 - 01:26:41.430

was a quality 30 seconds. Thank you. Let's go. Thanks for the call too. Rob in Maryland. You're on with Mike. Whoop, Rob's gone. Let's go to Dave in Tennessee. Hi Dave, you're on with Mike Segal from Mike Reagan. Yeah, Dave, go right ahead. Hello, hello. Yes,

01:26:41.629 - 01:26:58.109

Dave. Yeah, hi, how are you doing today? All right. I was, I was listening to your comments about that, that woman, that district attorney woman, and what disturbed me was not that she may or may not have exposed herself to anyone. What disturbed me was that

01:26:58.109 - 01:27:13.160

you began your comments with the phrase assuming this is true. Well, that's the only way we can have the conversation. Well, in America, we don't assume things are true. We don't assume people are guilty. We assume people are innocent. Well, let me make a point, Dave,

01:27:13.240 - 01:27:24.109

in case you weren't aware, this is not a court of law with rules of evidence. This is a talk show. convicting her as if it were a court of law. Not, not in the least. Absolutely not in the least. Around the Constitution by saying wait a

01:27:24.109 - 01:27:42.220

minute, wait, whoa, slow down a minute. Dave, Dave, number one. You're not going to impose rules of evidence on a radio talk show. That's #1. Number 2, the very point I made that assuming she's guilty so that we can have a conversation about what to do

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about her answers the point and and precludes a conclusion. I didn't give a conclusion that she's guilty. I said, if she is, what do we do? Right, but the whole thing is, is that why can't we wait until she is guilty or innocent and then talk

01:27:57.040 - 01:28:08.359

about it? Because we're talking about it now because the press has been publishing this story. It's been all over the country. I think we're talking about it because it has a little bit of sex in it and we want to get people's attention, middle America's attention,

01:28:08.520 - 01:31:56.120

and we're talking about it. All right, listen, sex works in media, doesn't it? Mike Segal from Mike Reagan, 1800-468-Mike after this. By the way, on the last caller's theory, if we weren't gonna talk about A case that's in the courts before it were resolved. I

01:31:56.120 - 01:32:08.330

you could figure half the topics on talk radio would be wiped out. Very interesting comment. All right. Uh, people want to stop talking about cases that are in the courts. I'd love to hear from you about that if you think you agree with that fellow. Let's

01:32:08.330 - 01:32:21.479

go to your calls and start with Jim in Memphis, Tennessee. Jim, you're on with Mike Segal from Mike Reagan. Hello. Good. Um, I just want to say I think that the uh the DA should be fired and the reason that I say so is because I

01:32:21.479 - 01:32:33.500

think that people in that position should be held to a higher standard. Of course, all of that with the proviso that she did in fact do what she's accused of. Right. Well, well, see, it has, it, I was listening to the guy earlier that was making

01:32:33.500 - 01:32:52.370

the comparison to a doctor. The real comparison to make would be that if the doctor were out writing himself prescriptions for narcotics and he was a prescription drug abuser, then the state would probably take his medical license away and Somebody that works for McDonald's that was

01:32:52.370 - 01:33:07.700

stealing the prescriptions and writing themselves a prescription for narcotics would probably not get fired from McDonald's. Well, that's true and but but there your analogy is a good one except the one point to remember is that that would be breaking the law if he's writing himself

01:33:07.700 - 01:33:23.279

prescriptions that are improper, um, you know, violating um what what should be for medical purposes. You could, you could make an argument that it's it's an illegal act on the part of that physician to write himself. Uh, drug addictive prescriptions, right. And just like mooning somebody

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is against the law also, and that's, that's what I'm saying. She, she has committed a crime that's a violation of, of the law and that involves moral turpitude. Well, yeah, and and and that whether we like it or not, people who are in public office and

01:33:39.729 - 01:33:52.330

she's in public office have standards they have to live by. And and how can somebody go in and criminally prosecute somebody else if they've already been, if she is convicted, how can she go in and convict other people? Right, and I think that we as citizens

01:33:52.330 - 01:34:05.419

have the right to expect for our officials to not act like that. I think that's perfectly reasonable, and I think it would set a bad standard if we allowed that kind of thing to go on. Well, why should she go and prosecute somebody for mooning people

01:34:05.419 - 01:34:21.509

when she's doing it herself? You got it. I thank you very much for calling. Uh, let's go to Paul in South Carolina next. Hello Paul. You're on with Mike Siegel for Michael Reagan. Paul, are you with us? Hello. Yeah, go right ahead, sir. Yeah, I just

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want to make a comment real quick on the district attorney. I was, well, first I'll say if she is prosecuted, she should definitely be fired, and I'll tell you why, because here in Richland County, South Carolina back in 1999, I was charged with a similar offense

01:34:36.709 - 01:34:49.975

of indecent exposure and the prosecutor who was prosecuting my case for the Fifth Circuit Solicitor's Office, she wouldn't allow me a trial. Now this prosecutor will more than likely get her day in court. But the woman who brought the charge against me fled as soon as

01:34:49.975 - 01:35:06.174

this thing was scheduled for trial in my case, and she, the prosecutor would not make the alleged victim come back and testify and I only got the Fifth Circuit Solicitor's Office to dismiss the case after I wrote them directly insisting on a speedy trial, so I

01:35:06.174 - 01:35:21.069

couldn't even get my day in court. But if this prosecutor will if she wants one, and if she is convicted before a jury of her peers. And on the charge, and she most definitely should be fired. I, I thank you very much for calling, sir, and

01:35:21.069 - 01:35:33.089

I appreciate it. I, I agree. I think that's the case. She's not constitutionally being violated if she's fired. You don't have a constitutional right to a job. Uh, let's go to Bill in Salt Lake City right where this happened. Hello, Bill, you're on with Mike Siegel

01:35:33.089 - 01:35:47.890

for Michael Reagan. Hey Mike, uh, listen, I was having trouble earlier getting a hold of you on my cell phone. We have a little bit of moon interference out here. I'll bet the energy was just flowing. You know, it's just all over the place. Listen, my

01:35:47.890 - 01:36:04.479

comment is just that I think that you know we all have a responsibility to be decent people, I think, particularly when we're out among ourselves, and I think that. Goes to a deeper feeling of what this woman must be like. I worry that she turned quickly

01:36:04.479 - 01:36:17.479

and was upset about the way she was to these people with a child there in the presence of a child. I think it speaks a little deeper of what this person's problems might be. Well, that's true. You know that's that's a point that hasn't even been

01:36:17.479 - 01:36:32.479

brought up. Uh, when you've got this situation of somebody who would I mean think about it. If again, we're we're going on the facts from the police report. She's she's walking two dogs, she's disciplining them. The people see her, they don't like what she's doing to

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the dogs. They're screaming at her and her answer is to moon them and bear her breasts to them. And she did it twice, by the way, not just once. Exactly. And you know, I, I, that's according to the police report. Right, and I agree with you.

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I think that particularly in her position she needs to be held to a higher standard, but don't we all have a responsibility, you know, to be decent people and to learn, you know, she needs to be more of an adult and learn how to control her

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anger and to, you know, work herself. If she has that kind of problem in public, out in the street, what, what, you know, what kind of an attorney is she? Well, that's a good question and I appreciate the call and I thank you. I want to

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get to this next fellow here. um, we're gonna go out of order with Jeff. Uh, in the Dallas, Oregon, he says, um, about Survivor that he hates that show. Jeff, you're on with Mike Siegel for Mike Reagan. Hello? Yeah, go ahead. Oh, am I on? You

01:37:25.250 - 01:37:40.390

are on, sir. Yes, sir. I hear music. Well, we shouldn't be, but go ahead. Oh, OK. No, I don't hate the show. I just don't watch it. I, you know, that's the theme music from Survivor, sir, that we're hearing the theme music from Survivor. Oh well,

01:37:40.509 - 01:37:56.410

I don't know that. OK. You know, I've only tuned in for maybe what, 10 seconds. What do you think? I think it sucks. What did you see when you saw it? Well, I thought it was like maybe a cross between Eco Challenge and a soap opera.

01:37:57.850 - 01:38:12.189

Pretty much. Um, I think, I think, I think most of the people that watch Survivor are pretty much people that just sit around their butts like, you know, total couch potatoes, and that's pretty much all they do. They just can't get up and go out and

01:38:12.189 - 01:38:26.310

maybe take a walk or a hike, you know, and see what, see what this whole beautiful world has to offer. You know, there's a thoughtlessness about all this stuff. You see, when this fellow who's the president of NBC Entertainment says he's filling a need or an

01:38:26.310 - 01:38:41.020

interest that people have, you know, the the answer to that is, what kind, what's the responsibility of the networks to help bring some kind of quality. To their programming and, you know, it's their job, you know, the problem, sir, is that they're lazy. Their job is

01:38:41.020 - 01:38:55.265

to try to bring good quality programming in an entertaining way. The West Wing has plenty of audience, you know. Law and Order, a great show, had plenty of audience. Exactly. Law and Order is a great show. so is Cheers. So is MAS. So is Fraser. They

01:38:55.265 - 01:39:05.384

don't want to think they're too lazy. They want to take the easy way out and give you a lot of pablum and make a lot of money for doing nothing. That's what they want to do. Well, that's great, you know, and that pretty much says, you

01:39:05.384 - 01:39:22.330

know, what the mentality of the American public is, you know, I was, you know, I was listening to an earlier show. They were talking about, uh, um. Uh, dress codes in, in, in schools, right? And, and the first thing I thought was what year I wanted

01:39:22.330 - 01:39:39.370

to call, I tried to call, and I said, I wanted to ask what year was it when the government said Children don't have to say the Pledge of Allegiance anymore. Yeah, that was a court decision for Jehovah Witnesses. Yeah, what year was that? I don't remember

01:39:39.370 - 01:39:57.600

off the top of my head, but it was not long ago. It was in the last couple of, I think that was the breakdown of when, when school children. Had started losing respect for the institution of what we call the educational system. Right? I guess that's

01:39:57.600 - 01:40:10.279

true and I thank you for calling. That's part of when it was. You're right. Um, by the way, the other program you heard was this program about that. This is the program that has all of the interesting conversation. Mike Siegel from Michael Reagan. 1-800-468-Mike, the lines

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that as we go back to your calls on reality programs and the assistant US attorney in Salt Lake City, mooning and burying her breasts to people complaining about the way she's treating a couple of dogs should she be fired if she's found guilty. Millie in San

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Diego. You're on with Mike Siegel for Mike Reagan. Hello. Yeah, hi Mike. Hi, I'm like the weakest link. And I think it's educational and I like to, I like seeing how people are to each other. I, uh, frankly, I'm not familiar, as I said at the

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beginning, I don't know much about these programs. What's intriguing about it to you? You are the weakest link. Goodbye. The weakest link. Well you have questions and it's educational like the millionaire is. They give them questions and they have to give the answers and if they're

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wrong, then they get voted off. What, what happens to them? They did go off the program, that's all. Just like that, they're swept away. Alright, well I well thank you. I mean there's obviously I appreciate the call Milly. They're successful. There's no question about that. Listen,

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I believe in the free enterprise system. If people want to watch this stuff, go ahead. I'm just saying that the networks could avoid laziness and create interesting, compelling, entertaining programming that's profitable by doing something of a better quality with some of these shows. Now maybe that

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one isn't isn't of the same ilk as some of the others but um. I I have no problem with people uh watching programs and and the free marketplace deciding what's going to be successful. Uh, let's go to uh Thomas in Holly Springs, Mississippi. Hey, Thomas, you're

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on with Mike Siegel for Mike Reagan. Hello. Uh, yeah. Hey, Mike. I just wanted to make a quick comment about um, the, uh, shows, um, from the NBC network, um. President, um, from sounds like he needs to go hunt a job at Fox. It's just a

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sounds a little bit um less entertaining than watching wrestling on TV. Sounds like it's similar. Uh, that was my opinion. I never watched even the 1st 5 minutes and tried to avoid the commercials for the first Survivor, and anything that comes from it is just horrible.

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It's just a waste of time. And it's just a just degrade society and TV and what we expose our children to completely. I have a 13 year old and a sixteen-year-old that are just enamored by, you know, the worst Foxs can put out, the more they

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want to watch it. It's horrible. Well, how do, how do you deal with that? I mean, at least you have control over what they watched to some extent. Well, uh, usually turn the TV off or try to put in a movie of, you know, try to

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rent a movie each night of something with you a little caliber, um, uh. Uh, anything from Zorba the Greek to, um, To Kill a Mockingbird, something with a little educational value if they want to watch something on TV. Yeah, no, that's, uh, thank you for calling

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and that that's a good point. Uh, parents having influence over their kids by maybe watching things together. To Kill a Mockingbird, I was just looking, I have the tape. I was just gonna watch it later tonight as a matter of fact with Gregory Peck, a great

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film. Denise in Utah. You're on with Mike Siegel for Mike Reagan. Denise, hello there. Hello. Hi. Hi. I love reality television. Tell me why. It's intriguing. I watched Big Brother and I'm excited for that new one called Lost. Are you familiar with Lost? Unfortunately, no. I

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have to plead ignorance there. Me? Yeah, go ahead. As I said, I don't know anything about it, but you tell us about it. That's right, you did say that. Loss is where they drop someone off in the middle of nowhere and they have to find their

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way home. You know, I've got to tell you and and we're of course the whole film crew is going to be following them around. I don't know exactly how they're going to pull that off, but so they don't desert them. There, there are people around them

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then, is that right? Well, I mean, that's probably how, I mean, of course they have to film it, so you'd think that there was a film crew with them. I don't know how they're going to work that one, but it sounds interesting. Only because it's a,

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I think that these shows are, they have a an element of a challenge to them. As long as there are people around, when you drop somebody off in the middle of nowhere because I I I I went through an incident when I was in college in

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my fraternity. We dropped the guy off in the middle of the night. And we went home and the next day I found out and he had we dropped him off in the woods. And I found out the next day by the time he got back to

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his car, he was half asleep. And he drove into a concrete abutment and got killed while he was driving. And it was very shocking obviously to all of us, especially since I was involved in dropping him off uh in the middle of the night. So I

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shuddered to think that they would leave somebody alone out there. No, that's what I'm saying. I don't know how they're going to work that one, but I watched Big Brother. I don't really like Survivor too much. What's appealing to you in in a general way about

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these programs? They have an element. There's an element of challenge to it. The Big Brother, there's a psychological challenge. And I guess for Survivor there's a little bit of both physical endurance and also A psychological challenge. Yeah, I suppose you could, you could say that it's

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it's it's like watching a ballgame in a way. I mean, or you know baseball, football, hockey, it's an endurance thing and and somebody being good at what they do, I suppose. I thank you, Denise very much. I guess there's some some of that attached to some

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of these programs. Let's go to Jessica in Wisconsin. You're on with Mike Segal, Jessica for Mike Reagan. Hello. Hi. First of all, I'd like to say I completely agree with you as far as reality TV goes. It's obviously become far too challenging to make a real

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TV show. That's my sense of it, yeah. Secondly, back to the assistant district attorney thing, um. I think she should be knocked out on her keister as quick as I can get her out of there. I, the guy that made the analogy about a doctor, I

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think it's more appropriate to bring the analogy of what if a doctor killed someone, served his prison sentence, came back out and decided to want to be a doctor again. Would that be appropriate? His job is to maintain life at the best ability possible. A district

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attorney is to prosecute people who break the law. That seems more accurate to me. Would you want your doctor? Coming fresh out of prison, having killed someone, would you want that person for a doctor? And would you want a prosecutor who just broke the law herself

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if she's found guilty, and I want to qualify it. If she's found guilty, would you want that? That's a good question. I thank you for calling Jessica too. Uh, and I think that's a fair analogy. Mike Siegel from Mike Reagan, 1-800-468-6453 right after this. This is

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posterior end with a moonshot. To some people who were criticizing the way she was disciplining a couple of dogs. And uh she did it twice according to the report. Um, Let's see, here's here's from from David, our producer, he um he doesn't like ER. It's just

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as bad as any reality TV show. How many times can NYPD Blue put Sipowicz through the wringer? All right, uh, question raised. We're also talking about reality TV programs. Glenn in Pennsylvania. You're on with Mike Segal for Michael Reagan. Hello. Yes, Mike, doing a great job.

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I appreciate you filling in for Mike Reagan. Thank you very much. Hopeful we can get your own show and play somebody locally comes on here named PH. Last name is Henry, but, uh, Anyhow, I think, uh, one of the things that I thought of when you

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talked about this was the, uh, accusation, I guess maybe it was never proven, but didn't, uh, Senator Kennedy get involved with some waitress down in Washington DC and it was referred to something as, uh, like a sandwich, him and another senator or I don't know, but

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I don't know, to be honest with you, but I do know that I I'm not sure if it was Vanity Fair. I think it was Vanity Fair or Cosmopolitan, some magazine had a long shot of the senator. On one of his boats off of his um

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compound in Hyannis, Massachusetts, where President Kennedy lived as well and he was lying out there, alleged apparently on top of a woman with his posterior end sticking out. He wasn't really mooning though because he wasn't out there publicly trying to display himself except for the fact

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that the camera caught him. Yeah, well, that's kind of off limits there, but I, I believe someone of of a of a pretty high power in the radio business has has supposedly made this uh Known to the public that he was, I, I know nothing about

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it, so I really can't make any comment about it. Yeah, and as far as far as the attorney general or district attorney herself, uh, maybe there was possibility she could have been drinking, um, you know, off hours. I know a lot of professional people like to,

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you know, have that martini or whatever, and, uh, sometimes I believe that could maybe play into this just sounds like irrational behavior, but Again, maybe provoked enough like you said, if the neighbors were cajoling her and uh maybe just giving her a rough time, maybe this

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wasn't the first time. Well, we'll have to, I thank you for calling. We'll have to see how the trial plays out. If she were inebriated, she might use that as a defense for diminished capacity. Michelle in Utah, you're on with Mike Segal from Mike Reagan about

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30 seconds. Go. Hi Mike Go right ahead. Yeah, I'm calling to make a comment about like the reality TV shows. I agree with you. I feel that they, they make them pointless and then Um, there's a show called called Street Smart. Have you ever heard of

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that one? They sit there and they make fun of people. I mean, there's actually really stupid people out there and they're the people who actually watch the shows. Well, you know, there you are. I thank you for calling and wrapping it up. It's a mixed bag

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I guess as to who watches. We'll have to follow that closely. Mike Siegel from Michael Reagan, I thank you all for a great hour. Good to be with you. Mike Reagan is back Monday. You've been listening to the very independent Michael Reagan Show on the premier

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radio network. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.